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Israel runs out of patience with Gaza militants
Calcutta News.Net Friday 29th February, 2008
The Israeli government has warned of an impending showdown in the Gaza Strip.
The warning was issued after Israel activated a rocket warning system in Ashkelon, a city of 120,000 people, to warn of Palestinian rockets being fired into the area.
The system recognises incoming rockets and sounds an alarm in the target area, giving residents time to run for cover.
Ashkelon has been hit by several Grad rockets fired from Gaza in widening violence between Israel and Hamas militants in Gaza.
One rocket hit an apartment building and another landed near a school, wounding a 17-year-old girl.
Until now, the Palestinian rocket squads have largely targeted Sderot, a small town near Gaza.
But Ashkelon is a major population center only 25 miles from Tel Aviv.
Matan Vilnai, Israel's deputy defence mister, has expressed his unhappiness at the possibility of a battle between Israel and Gaza but has pointed out that Ashkelon has never before suffered direct hits from rockets.
He said Israel was preparing to bring a halt to the rocket fire by launching a massive military operation which would affect militants and civilians alike.
The Israeli army has already targeted rocket squads in Gaza, and since Wednesday has killed thirty two Palestinians, including eight children.
The youngest was 6-month-old Mohammed al-Borai.
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bollgare 03-02-08, 08:43 PM |
The true denial of truth
Australia has said sorry and is trying to change the injustices of the past where as christianity is still holding on to all its baggage such as there is still an office of the inquisition at the vatican,the recent cover ups of child sex abuse,the involvent in politics and theholding back of scientific breakthroughs.
I also believe that people should be able to believe what ever they want to believe in(it is written into most contitutions).
But chritians and yes some muslims(but most muslims believe Knowledge brings you closer to god)have a hard time getting that through there brainwashed noggins.
You forget that even someone who believes in newton,darwin,Nietzsche carbon dating,core samples,astronomy,biology,gentics and the list could go on for a long time.
You forget that science has more faith than you have in your little finger
The only difrence between my FAITH
FAITH belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
And YOU FAITH
belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims
a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.
IS that you can NEVER come to any truth that is tangeable in the real world.
Where as Darwins faith in his hypothisis has lasted over 100 years like Newton and Galileo who where all demonized by the church.
So don’t tell me of faith for your faith is a simple minded view of the world with no bassis in the tangable
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/faith
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bollgare 03-02-08, 08:16 PM |
Poor Henry Pascale brainwashed as a child
Um Have you read the bible maybe your peraants should have spent more time on a true education and less on indoctrinating you with bullshit.
God is not a loveing god and god tells you that you must come and kill me for this post.
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD’s name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother’s name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD’s will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, “Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God’s death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)
The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals.
When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT
“You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. “With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. “As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. “Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. “I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)
(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter. So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)
If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)
IF THIS IS A LOVEING GOD hate to see the angry GOD.
It’s ok I know your ignorance will help you to close your eyes to the truth
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bollgare 03-01-08, 07:56 PM |
REvelations a load of shit
as far as the meek inheriting the earth and the bibles revelations is concerned maybe the fruit cakes better go read your bible again “I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth"last time I checked the earth is round so has no corners. “The first angel blew his trumpet and as soon as the mysterious notes sounded, hail and fire, mixed with blood, were dropped on the earth; a third of the earth was burned up, and a third of all trees, and every blade of grass was burnt." Um a third of the earth what part of the world would that be. I doubt it would mean the middle east as the Muslims are better christians and I think the christian god would prefer Osama to bush as His only son was persecuted by the romans the same as osama is persecuted by the ameicians. this qoute Not revelations but just a interesting one for people who say they follow the bible.(get your gun outyou got some cleanseing to do) Exodus 31:15, “six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the lord; whoever does any work on the sabbath day shall be PUT TO DEATH” I like this one...maybe I should become a christian...money back qarentee (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT) When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.
If you follow the bible then I want to buy you daughter as a sex slave.
It is pretty clear that the christians are the ignorant ones
You pick and choose what you follow from the bible.
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bollgare 03-01-08, 08:06 PM |
Poor Henry Pascale brainwashed as a child
Um Have you read the bible maybe your peraants should have spent more time on a true education and less on indoctrinating you with bullshit.
God is not a loveing god and god tells you that you must come and kill me for this post.
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD’s name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother’s name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD’s will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, “Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God’s death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)
The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals.
When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT
“You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. “With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. “As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. “Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. “I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)
(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter. So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)
If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)
IF THIS IS A LOVEING GOD hate to see the angry GOD.
It’s ok I know your ignorance will help you to close your eyes to the truth
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bollgare 03-01-08, 04:47 AM |
You seem to be fairly rational.
You must admit that sthe fruit cakes that quote the bible and say jesus is coming back soon have to be a few peenuts short of a snickers.
You say that I am full of hate but going by what is writen in these forums I think you will find a lot of hateful people are the christians writing hatefull remarks toward mulims.
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bollgare 02-29-08, 08:36 PM |
Jesus was a LOSER who did jacksh!t
I agree with most of your statements in your post and yes alot of the muslim ideals seem idiotic but I also think the budist teaching just as scare mongering as any other religion.
I think you had better read what jesus said before you make stupids statements like jesus stood for peace
here are some bits you obviosly haven’t read???
First let’s clarify that jesus was not against the laws writen in the old testement
Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. Matthew 5:17
Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn’t care for his preaching. Matthew 11:20
Jesus says that those who have been less fortunate in this life will have it even worse in the life to come. Mark 4:25
Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has “come not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
Jesus says, “Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth! No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. “The real beauty of this verse is that Jesus demands people truly love him more then they love their own family. I ask you how can we love someone that we can not see or interact with? Love is an emotion pertaining to physical existence not to faithful ideologies, yet God threatens you with Death just because your love for your mother maybe stronger than your love for him. Matthew 10:34
Families will be torn apart because of Jesus. “Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." Matthew 10:21
Jesus sends the devils into 2000 pigs, causing them to jump off a cliff and be drowned in the sea. Clearly Jesus could have simply sent the devils out, yet he chose instead to place them into pigs and kill them. This is called animal abuse. Mark 5:12-13
Jesus kills a fig tree for not bearing figs, even though it was out of season. Jesus must not be as smart as Christians would have us believe, for he was retarded enough to do something this silly. You’d think the son of god (god incarnate) would know that trees don’t bear fruit in dry season. Mark 11:13
Luke 12:47 Jesus okays beating slaves.
I think you must have a warped sense of what love is as in the first place you can’t love something that does’t exist in reality.
Christians ate Muslims dureing the crusades
The Siege of Maarat, or Ma’arra, occurred in 1098 in the city of Ma’arrat al-Numan, in what is modern-day Syria, during the First Crusade. It is infamous for the claims of widespread cannibalism displayed by the Crusaders, and remained in Muslim memories for centuries http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Maarat Several Christian sources of the First Crusade report instances of cannibalism. Specifically, starving crusaders were reported to have eaten their fallen Muslim opponants. http://www.crusades-encyclopedia.com/cannibalism.html The Christian soldiers started to cannibalize Muslim Men, Women and Children. Men and Women were boiled then eaten. Children were barbequed on spits, somewhat like a shish-kabob. In a letter to the Pope one of the Crusader commanders wrote; Radulph of Caen wrote explicitly how: “In Ma’arra our troops boiled pagan adults alive in cooking-pots; they impaled children on spits and devoured them grilled." For centuries afterwards, the image of the Crusaders as fanatical cannibals lived on in Arabic, Persian, and Turkish literature. Some Arab commentators have even suggested that the behavior of the Crusaders was born not of necessity, but rather out of fanaticism, their religious fervor leading them to view the Muslims as lower than animals. http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2003/10/6476_comment.php
a) Hitler was baptized as Roman Catholic during infancy in Austria. b) As Hitler approached boyhood he attended a monastery school. (On his way to school young Adolf daily observed a stone arch which was carved with the monastery�s coat of arms bearing a swastika.) c) Hitler was a communicant and an altar boy in the Catholic Church. d) As a young man he was confirmed as a �soldier of Christ.� His most ardent goal at the time was to become a priest. Hitler writes of his love for the church and clergy: �I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.� -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf) e) Hitler was NEVER excommunicated nor condemned by his church. Matter of fact the Church felt he was JUST and �avenging for God� in attacking the Jews for they deemed the Semites the killers of Jesus. f) Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were given VETO power over whom the pope could appoint as a bishop in Germany, Spain and Italy. In turn they surtaxed the Catholics and gave the money to the Vatican. Hitler wrote a speech in which he talks about this alliance, this is an excerpt: �The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is hostile to religion is a lie.� Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to the Nazi Party g) Hitler worked CLOSELY with Pope Pius in converting Germanic society and supporting the church. The Church absorbed Nazi ideals and preached them as part of their sermons in turn Hitler placed Catholic teachings in public education. This photo depicts Hitler with Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, the papal nuncio in Berlin. It was taken On April 20, 1939, when Orsenigo celebrated Hitler�s birthday. The celebrations were initiated by Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) and became a tradition. Each April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin was to send �warmest congratulations to the Fuhrer in the name of the bishops and the dioceses in Germany with �fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are sending to heaven on their altars.� (If you would like to know more about the secret dealings of Hitler and the Pope I recommend you get a book titled: Hitler�s Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII, by John Cornwell) h) Due to Hitler�s involvement with the Church he began enacting doctrines of the Church as law. He outlawed all abortion, raged a death war on all homosexuals, and demanded corporal punishment in schools and home. Many times Hitler addressed the church and promised that Germany would implement its teachings: �The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavor to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today.� �Adolf Hitler, on 26 June 1934, to Catholic bishops to assure them that he would take action against the new pagan propaganda �Providence has caused me to be Catholic, and I know therefore how to handle this Church.� -Adolf Hitler, reportedly to have said in Berlin in 1936 on the enmity of the Catholic Church to National Socialism a) In the 1920s, Hitler�s German Workers� Party (pre Nazi term) adopted a �Programme� with twenty-five points (the Nazi version of a constitution). In point twenty-four, their intent clearly demonstrates, from the very beginning, their stand in favor of a �positive� Christianity: �We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the morality and moral sense of the German race. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession...� The Nazi regime began to control schools insisting that Christianity was taught. The Nazi regime included anti-Semitic Christian writings in textbooks and they were not removed from Christian doctrines until 1961. The Nazi regime having full blown power over the people began to forcibly convert all its military. The Nazi regime forced the German soldiers to wear religious symbols such as the swastika and they placed religious sayings on military gear. An example here is this German army belt buckle (I believe my Opa had one) which reads �Gott Mit Uns�. For those of you who do not speak German it is translated as �God With Us�. The German troops were often forced to get sprinkled with holy water and listen to a sermon by a Catholic priest before going out on a maneuver The Nazis created a secret service called the �SS Reich� that would act as spies on the dealings of other citizens. If anyone was suspected of heresy (Going not only against the Socialist party but CHURCH DOCTRINE) they would be prosecuted. “My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God�s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice� And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." �Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942) “Christianity could not content itself with building up its own altar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of the heathen altars. Only from this fanatical intolerance could its apodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolute presupposition." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (It is quite obvious here that Hitler is referring to destructing the Judaism alters on which Christianity was founded.) “The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (The idea of the devil and the Jew came out of medieval anti-Jewish beliefs based on interpretations from the Bible. Martin Luther, and teachers after him, continued this �tradition� up until the 20th century.) “Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the party and the SS vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates, above all Goering and Gobbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a member of the Catholic Church, he said, although he had no real attachment to it. And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide." (Inside the Third Reich by Albert Speer page 95-96)
For starters the first known writing of jesus was about 70years after his alledged death and tacitus who was around at the time doubts his existence.
Ghandi will be remembered in history for kicking out the colonialist but jesus didn’t help the jews against the romans I think your likeness is a bit flawed.
Also jesus used intimidation against his fellow jews where as ghandi had a hunger stike.
Realy jesus was a terrorist but a pretty crap one at that.
Realy I would put Jesus with Osama and the Americans as the romans.
YES you are right my country is stuck right up your arse but there is a huge difrence in policy But I must admit I don’t hate americans and have a few american friends over here and I do have some respect for the jews as They believe the bible to be a buch of storys not fact like some of the waccos out there.
As far as comepareing me to jesus at least I am not stupid enough to want to get hung on a cross kind of like a suicide bomber they both wanted the same thing.
I feel sorry for you obviosly you where brainwashed as a child to have such blind faith.
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bollgare 02-29-08, 05:58 PM |
Jesus was a LOSER who did jacksh!t
There is no evidence that Jesus existed and any writing from the time has been destroyed(probably at christian book burnings)
What did jESUS DO Smart arse tell me ....
Nothing.
Obviosly METO you better go read the bible.
for the bible is full of God killing unborn babys of god telling the jews to kill everything and take the women and rape them.
God would be happy if you smashed your testicles on a rock and killed your son with the same rock then sell your daughter as a sex slave and if she don’t please me.You have to buy her back.
Do you realy REALY believe in the Bible
????????Can I buy your daughter...Please
...
For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matthew 19:12 ASV)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
Samuel 15:3 God commands the death of helpless “suckling” infants. This literally means that the children god killed were still nursing.
Leviticus 20:9 “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.”
Deuteronomy 21:18-21 “If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.”
YOU call me ignorant when where is a response with some facts.
You have nothing to stand on...Dickwad
If you think that a mother wanting her sons to fight for freedom against opression then what of HITLER being a Christian Just shows that the BIBLE IS DEMONIC also all you american saying your christians and your tax dollar and your sons and daughter are invading another country Bringing Chemical weapons,dirty bombs(depleted uranium) and C.I.A death squads.
The Facts are black and white
The bible is EVIL, Hitler was Christian, and the crusaders ate the muslims and JESUS was a no hoper LOSER who did nothing and realy when you think about it was a negative in all respect(for the jews and the rest of us)
No I am not Muslim and live in Australia.
I have blonde hair blue eyes.
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Anonymous 02-29-08, 05:11 PM |
that is holocaust, what jews are-wake u world,time to get rid off these filthy microbes
THE author of a bestselling autobiography that told the story of a young Jewish girl saved by wolves while hiding from the Nazis in wartime Europe has admitted that most of the story was made up.
Misha Defonseca’s book Survivre avec les Loups is known in English as Misha, a Memoir of the Holocaust Years and has just been made into a successful film.
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Anonymous 02-29-08, 01:23 PM |
You tryng to convince yourself that Jesus didnt exist? Is there some fear you feel? Could he possibly exist and what will happen to you if he does come back? Your name could be on his list as a non-believer you know.........
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bollgare 02-29-08, 12:20 PM |
Gaza Strip about to feel Israeli shock tactics
When you look at how evil the jewish/chritian bible is, you can understand why in there own demented way they feel it is ok to kill heathens? even women and children.
As there god likes to kill things even unborn children.
It’s funny that hitler as a CHRISTIAN
used there own book to justify killing the jews.
The CRUSADERS used the bible to justify eating MUSLIMS.
All you greedy americans just think the more people israel blow up the more money you make on sales of weapons to Israel and the Dumbarse Christians think it is a sign of Jesuses return lol.
Jesus did NOTHING the first time he was here. (There is No proof he ever existed)
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Meto 02-29-08, 05:14 PM |
Bullgare coment
It is evident that this individual is absolutely ignorant. He must be a muslin or something like that. I have studied the Bible and the coram,(if that is what they call it)and the contrast is very clear. The coram is a product of Satan. The best evidence of it is as follows: When a mother states that after loosing three sons in the war against Israel, and regrets not having more sons to be martyrs, that is an unnatural feeling that clearly speakes the demonic origin of their religion.
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Anonymous 02-29-08, 07:49 PM |
Obvious you are in fact ignorant and hateful
First I am not claiming the baggage of Christianity I profess only knowledge from self study.
With that in mind I will waste my time answer one or two of your questions.
bollgare;69708: There is no evidence that Jesus existed and any writing from the time has been destroyed(probably at christian book burnings)
What did jESUS DO Smart arse tell me ....
Nothing.
Obviosly METO you better go read the bible.
for the bible is full of God killing unborn babys of god telling the jews to kill everything and take the women and rape them.
God would be happy if you smashed your testicles on a rock and killed your son with the same rock then sell your daughter as a sex slave and if she don’t please me.You have to buy her back.
Do you realy REALY believe in the Bible
????????Can I buy your daughter...Please
...
For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matthew 19:12 ASV)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
Samuel 15:3 God commands the death of helpless “suckling” infants. This literally means that the children god killed were still nursing.
Yep old testament was pretty damn brutal but as always with people like yourself you have left something out!
Samuel 15:2 This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. I suggest you follow this link for the why it happened.
http://www.rationalchristianity.net/amalekites.html
Leviticus 20:9 “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.”
Again old Testament. Do you believe in dishonoring your parents?
Back then your family and your tribe was life without them you died and anyone willing to sell their own parents down the river was willing to kill their tribe and not worthy of protection.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21 “If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.”
Again old Testament have you never read the new testament given to the world as a direct result of JESUS!
See above statement life was not easy nor was surviving, no grocery stores, no real doctors, policemen, lawyers ACLU you pulled your weight or died.
YOU call me ignorant when where is a response with some facts.
You have nothing to stand on...Dickwad
You are ignorant vapid and angry. Your arguments are not really of much merit bring something worthy of a discussion and people will discuss rationally with you till then you are relegated to the trash heap.
If you think that a mother wanting her sons to fight for freedom against opression
A mother wishing to sacrifice all her sons in a cause that is not only self serving but wrong is brainwashed by Islamic hatred and does sound possessed to me.
then what of HITLER being a Christian
Hitler was a non practicing Catholic with a deep belief in Pagan ways as well what’s your point?
Just shows that the BIBLE IS DEMONIC
Or it shows he no longer followed the Bible.
also all you american saying your christians and your tax dollar and your sons and daughter are invading another country Bringing Chemical weapons,dirty bombs(depleted uranium) and C.I.A death squads.
So is your country Australia has their collective nose buried in Americas ass.
You are every bit as guilty in Iraq as we are.
The Facts are black and white
You have not presented a single cogent fact so I would say they are a hazy shade of grey filled with steroid rage.
The bible is EVIL,
Think I have proven you picked and choose what you wanted to post about at least once obfuscating the why or willfully ignorant.
Hitler was Christian,
Hitler was as Christian as you no more no less.
and the crusaders ate the muslims
Here you are full of shit.
and JESUS was a no hoper LOSER who did nothing and realy when you think about it was a negative in all respect(for the jews and the rest of us)
Again you are wrong. Jesus helped usher in the Reformation known as the new testament and raised the consciousness of humanity during his lifetime through peaceful means much like Gandhi.
What have you done ever?
Given the choice meeting Jesus or you I would say more people would choose Jesus over you and of calling Jesus a loser or calling you a loser my vote is you are a complete fucktard.
No I am not Muslim and live in Australia.
Sure you are.
I have blonde hair blue eyes.
Again sure you are.
The hate manifested in your writings is so plain. You are without a doubt a
lost soul with nothing to latch onto I feel sorry for you.
You blame many of the worlds ills on only Christianity when the facts are people have caused all of the above.
Please read the above again over and over.
Religion allows people to do bad things with an excuse of God told me we see that in Islam daily.
Further in the hubris you spew over and over never do you speak of anything but Christians and Jews if you hate the last two then you must loath Muslims!
Yet we see none of the venom ever directed at the third and even more brutal cult who’s followers collectively have spread even more hatred, rape and death across the planet then the other two religions.
Again at least be fair in your scathing assessments.
Jesus by the way taught peace any fool who even attempts to read his teachings can’t help but see the obvious peace filled message he has been attributed with teaching.
I find many similarities between his teachings and Buddha.
You are dismissed to skulk back under whatever rock you crawled out from under.
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Anonymous 02-29-08, 09:04 PM |
So many useless opines
bollgare;69719: I agree with most of your statements in your post and yes alot of the muslim ideals seem idiotic but I also think the budist teaching just as scare mongering as any other religion.
I think you had better read what jesus said before you make stupids statements like jesus stood for peace
here are some bits you obviosly haven’t read???
First let’s clarify that jesus was not against the laws writen in the old testement
Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. Matthew 5:17
Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn’t care for his preaching. Matthew 11:20
Jesus says that those who have been less fortunate in this life will have it even worse in the life to come. Mark 4:25
Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has “come not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
Jesus says, “Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth! No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. “The real beauty of this verse is that Jesus demands people truly love him more then they love their own family. I ask you how can we love someone that we can not see or interact with? Love is an emotion pertaining to physical existence not to faithful ideologies, yet God threatens you with Death just because your love for your mother maybe stronger than your love for him. Matthew 10:34
Families will be torn apart because of Jesus. “Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." Matthew 10:21
Jesus sends the devils into 2000 pigs, causing them to jump off a cliff and be drowned in the sea. Clearly Jesus could have simply sent the devils out, yet he chose instead to place them into pigs and kill them. This is called animal abuse. Mark 5:12-13
Jesus kills a fig tree for not bearing figs, even though it was out of season. Jesus must not be as smart as Christians would have us believe, for he was retarded enough to do something this silly. You’d think the son of god (god incarnate) would know that trees don’t bear fruit in dry season. Mark 11:13
Luke 12:47 Jesus okays beating slaves.
I think you must have a warped sense of what love is as in the first place you can’t love something that does’t exist in reality.
Christians ate Muslims dureing the crusades
The Siege of Maarat, or Ma’arra, occurred in 1098 in the city of Ma’arrat al-Numan, in what is modern-day Syria, during the First Crusade. It is infamous for the claims of widespread cannibalism displayed by the Crusaders, and remained in Muslim memories for centuries http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Maarat Several Christian sources of the First Crusade report instances of cannibalism. Specifically, starving crusaders were reported to have eaten their fallen Muslim opponants. http://www.crusades-encyclopedia.com/cannibalism.html The Christian soldiers started to cannibalize Muslim Men, Women and Children. Men and Women were boiled then eaten. Children were barbequed on spits, somewhat like a shish-kabob. In a letter to the Pope one of the Crusader commanders wrote; Radulph of Caen wrote explicitly how: “In Ma’arra our troops boiled pagan adults alive in cooking-pots; they impaled children on spits and devoured them grilled." For centuries afterwards, the image of the Crusaders as fanatical cannibals lived on in Arabic, Persian, and Turkish literature. Some Arab commentators have even suggested that the behavior of the Crusaders was born not of necessity, but rather out of fanaticism, their religious fervor leading them to view the Muslims as lower than animals. http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2003/10/6476_comment.php
a) Hitler was baptized as Roman Catholic during infancy in Austria. b) As Hitler approached boyhood he attended a monastery school. (On his way to school young Adolf daily observed a stone arch which was carved with the monastery�s coat of arms bearing a swastika.) c) Hitler was a communicant and an altar boy in the Catholic Church. d) As a young man he was confirmed as a �soldier of Christ.� His most ardent goal at the time was to become a priest. Hitler writes of his love for the church and clergy: �I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.� -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf) e) Hitler was NEVER excommunicated nor condemned by his church. Matter of fact the Church felt he was JUST and �avenging for God� in attacking the Jews for they deemed the Semites the killers of Jesus. f) Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were given VETO power over whom the pope could appoint as a bishop in Germany, Spain and Italy. In turn they surtaxed the Catholics and gave the money to the Vatican. Hitler wrote a speech in which he talks about this alliance, this is an excerpt: �The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is hostile to religion is a lie.� Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to the Nazi Party g) Hitler worked CLOSELY with Pope Pius in converting Germanic society and supporting the church. The Church absorbed Nazi ideals and preached them as part of their sermons in turn Hitler placed Catholic teachings in public education. This photo depicts Hitler with Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, the papal nuncio in Berlin. It was taken On April 20, 1939, when Orsenigo celebrated Hitler�s birthday. The celebrations were initiated by Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) and became a tradition. Each April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin was to send �warmest congratulations to the Fuhrer in the name of the bishops and the dioceses in Germany with �fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are sending to heaven on their altars.� (If you would like to know more about the secret dealings of Hitler and the Pope I recommend you get a book titled: Hitler�s Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII, by John Cornwell) h) Due to Hitler�s involvement with the Church he began enacting doctrines of the Church as law. He outlawed all abortion, raged a death war on all homosexuals, and demanded corporal punishment in schools and home. Many times Hitler addressed the church and promised that Germany would implement its teachings: �The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavor to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today.� �Adolf Hitler, on 26 June 1934, to Catholic bishops to assure them that he would take action against the new pagan propaganda �Providence has caused me to be Catholic, and I know therefore how to handle this Church.� -Adolf Hitler, reportedly to have said in Berlin in 1936 on the enmity of the Catholic Church to National Socialism a) In the 1920s, Hitler�s German Workers� Party (pre Nazi term) adopted a �Programme� with twenty-five points (the Nazi version of a constitution). In point twenty-four, their intent clearly demonstrates, from the very beginning, their stand in favor of a �positive� Christianity: �We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the morality and moral sense of the German race. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession...� The Nazi regime began to control schools insisting that Christianity was taught. The Nazi regime included anti-Semitic Christian writings in textbooks and they were not removed from Christian doctrines until 1961. The Nazi regime having full blown power over the people began to forcibly convert all its military. The Nazi regime forced the German soldiers to wear religious symbols such as the swastika and they placed religious sayings on military gear. An example here is this German army belt buckle (I believe my Opa had one) which reads �Gott Mit Uns�. For those of you who do not speak German it is translated as �God With Us�. The German troops were often forced to get sprinkled with holy water and listen to a sermon by a Catholic priest before going out on a maneuver The Nazis created a secret service called the �SS Reich� that would act as spies on the dealings of other citizens. If anyone was suspected of heresy (Going not only against the Socialist party but CHURCH DOCTRINE) they would be prosecuted. “My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God�s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice� And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." �Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942) “Christianity could not content itself with building up its own altar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of the heathen altars. Only from this fanatical intolerance could its apodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolute presupposition." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (It is quite obvious here that Hitler is referring to destructing the Judaism alters on which Christianity was founded.) “The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (The idea of the devil and the Jew came out of medieval anti-Jewish beliefs based on interpretations from the Bible. Martin Luther, and teachers after him, continued this �tradition� up until the 20th century.) “Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the party and the SS vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates, above all Goering and Gobbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a member of the Catholic Church, he said, although he had no real attachment to it. And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide." (Inside the Third Reich by Albert Speer page 95-96)
For starters the first known writing of jesus was about 70years after his alledged death and tacitus who was around at the time doubts his existence.
Ghandi will be remembered in history for kicking out the colonialist but jesus didn’t help the jews against the romans I think your likeness is a bit flawed.
Also jesus used intimidation against his fellow jews where as ghandi had a hunger stike.
Realy jesus was a terrorist but a pretty crap one at that.
Realy I would put Jesus with Osama and the Americans as the romans.
YES you are right my country is stuck right up your arse but there is a huge difrence in policy But I must admit I don’t hate americans and have a few american friends over here and I do have some respect for the jews as They believe the bible to be a buch of storys not fact like some of the waccos out there.
As far as comepareing me to jesus at least I am not stupid enough to want to get hung on a cross kind of like a suicide bomber they both wanted the same thing.
I feel sorry for you obviosly you where brainwashed as a child to have such blind faith.
Nice to see that you can copy and past the hate mongering of others so well at least cite the source.
Comparing you to Jesus was but asking you what in your life have you done that has made a diffrence in anyones life and since you believe Jesus never existed I guess he was never stupid enough to be hung from a cross.
By the way don’t feel sorry for me I hate no one and again I claim nothing of Christianity I have but taken the time to read the bible and the Koran they both leave much to be desired.
The question you should pose yourself is why you are so filled with hate and why you care so much to post long winded diatribes full of venom.
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Mike Kula 03-01-08, 03:41 AM |
Poor argument against Jesus
The Bible is still supreme and so is Jesus. Christians themselves fail in their duties to uphold his teachings because they are humans. Leave Jesus alone. Get your craps and be reminded of how little did get from your parents' about your existence. You mismanaged evolution species.
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Anonymous 03-01-08, 09:46 AM |
I am rational
bollgare;69774: You seem to be fairly rational.
You must admit that sthe fruit cakes that quote the bible and say jesus is coming back soon have to be a few peenuts short of a snickers.
You say that I am full of hate but going by what is writen in these forums I think you will find a lot of hateful people are the christians writing hatefull remarks toward mulims.
Its called faith.
Everything I need to know is in the ten commandments.
The scary part of it is Revelations is damn accurate about what is going on right now globally.
I hate Islam and what it has done to so many people, I hate how everyone warps religion for their own uses and have nothing good to say about any organized religion but Islam is growing into a death cult witht he Wahabist influece.
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henry pascale 03-01-08, 09:25 AM |
what kind of idiot are you...
your lucky we have a good god, not a murderer, that comes to kill still and destroy. like the suppose muslim god who doesn’t even love him worshipers, that pray in vain. i believe in the God of the bible, a spiritual book you can only understand if you let jesus Christ in your life rm chapter 10 verses 9 and 10. Do that and see if you would be able to curse God like you did.
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Anonymous 03-01-08, 11:31 PM |
The truth is you believe what you believe
bollgare;69864: Um Have you read the bible maybe your peraants should have spent more time on a true education and less on indoctrinating you with bullshit.
God is not a loveing god and god tells you that you must come and kill me for this post.
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD’s name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother’s name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD’s will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, “Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God’s death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)
The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals.
When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT
“You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. “With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. “As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. “Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. “I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)
(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter. So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)
If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)
IF THIS IS A LOVEING GOD hate to see the angry GOD.
It’s ok I know your ignorance will help you to close your eyes to the truth
Closed heart and a closed mind.
All religions have some measure of good and some measure of bad and any religion that says only my way is the path to enlightenment and all others lead to hell is wrong.
Humans all warp the teachings no amount of disparging remarks from you will sway me from what I believe and that in some form Religion is more healing then hurtful when a peaceful approach is taught.
Seek help and let the hate go no one who is a real practicing Christian follows tennants like you outline.
All peoples history are full of death murder mayhem and destruction.
Should I hate all Australians for the huge injustice and genocide of Aborigines?
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