War in Afghanistan being lost, says Musharraf

War in Afghanistan being lost,says Musharraf..comments by(qamaryousafzai@yahoo.com)

There is no doubt that Karzai is blaming pakistan with out any evidence that Taliban is now supporting by ISI,and he is now known as Kabul mayor,as I have observed at the time of my detention by Taliban In Afghanistan in november 2006,while in 2002, I was in Kandahar and i visited to a college named Albaironi liesa of Kandahar and I saw a big Map of Afghanistan in College on front wall of The college,i was astonished that in the map there was no any name of Pakistan with Afghanistan boundary but the name of Pushtoonistan were there in the map ,it means that karzai’s Government are working for dividing Pakistan,and there are many other things are also available in Afghanistan,so the Afghanistan having many problems due to missmanagement and lack of Co-Ordination are even with NATO is there in Afghanistan,more over The Mili Jaaba(a political forum) also came in power which is patronizing by Prof;Burhanuddin Rabani and the brother of late Ahmad shah Masood,mr Zia masood and Rasheed dostam younas Qanoni and many others are agianst of Karzai,this is very much large subject and this forum is for short while an other issue as related with media in the story above no doubt that in Musharaf’s Period electronic media growth up and also other media as comparing to the Zia ul Haq time,but here bien a journalist I will qout....
PAKISTAN Regulatory body threatens TV station with closure over coverage of judicial crisis :
Reporters Without Borders condemned the “show-cause notice” which the Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority (PEMRA) today sent to privately-owned Aaj TV threatening it with closure because of its coverage of a crisis resulting from the supreme court president’s dismissal that has been very embarrassing for President Pervez Musharraf.Citing a supreme judicial council order restricting coverage of the crisis, the notice warns the station that its licence could be withdrawn if it does not amend its programme content and if its CEO does not present himself to the PEMRA within three days to defend the station from the charge that it has been breaking the rules. The PEMRA has also warned all TV stations not to broadcast programmes denigrating the judiciary or attacking the “integrity of the armed forces of Pakistan.“Reporters Without Borders voices its support for Aaj TV and calls on the PEMRA to stop putting pressure on television stations by threatening to withdraw their licences. One of Aaj TV’s executives said the station would defend its editorial independence.

ABSOLUTE LIE

First of all: Pakistan made and supported the TALIBAN just to please America of the time. And now that the tables have turned and Pakistan is declining,the ambivalent Musharaf is just trying to “hide the sun with his fingers”. And his comments against the US and Mr.Karzai are just meant for proving his honesty to his radical pakee supporters. As a matter of fact all of Musharaf’s comments and assertions about Afghan government have been rejected with RATIONAL LOGIC and EVIDENCE.
And in contrary to what JEMMY just said i wanna say that NATO,US, and the Afghan government is not eradicating poppy cultivation because it’s the primary source of LUCRE for the common people of the south.
LONG LIVE DEMOCRATIIC AFGHANISTAN.

ABSOLUTE LIE

First of all: Pakistan made and supported the TALIBAN just to please America of the time. And now that the tables have turned and Pakistan is declining,the ambivalent Musharaf is just trying to “hide the sun with his fingers”. And his comments against the US and Mr.Karzai are just meant for proving his honesty to his radical pakee supporters. As a matter of fact all of Musharaf’s comments and assertions about Afghan government have been rejected with RATIONAL LOGIC and EVIDENCE.
And in contrary to what JEMMY just said i wanna say that NATO,US, and the Afghan government is not eradicating poppy cultivation because it’s the primary source of LUCRE for the common people of the south.
LONG LIVE DEMOCRATIIC AFGHANISTAN.

Musharaf is a us budsucker nothing els.
i think that expleanse alot.

Pakee Niggers No Threat for Afghanistan

Pakees cannot occupy or influence Afghanistan in anyway, they will lose the war and the “PASHTUNISTAN”. Afghans have never been conquered or controlled in any way.
Our Afghans have defeated any invading/occupying outside force, including Persians, Arabs, Mongols, Britons(ask anyone about the three Anglo-Afghan wars or just check it out on wikipedia), Soviets,... and now it’s our nearest neighbor’s turn I guess. The fact that we are in the darkest pages of our history doesnt even matter, It’s just a phase afterall.

UNFORTUNATE AFGHANISTAN

It is really a tragedy; that after so many years; the people of Afghanistan are in war in one one way or the other. Politicians come and go; Governments come and go. In the end who losses; the people. genereations have been lost in this unfortunate land.
Nobody will help Afghanistan; this is a true fact. They can blame Pakistan, Al-Quade, US, Poppy cultivation etc etc.. It is the people within that can help themselves and the generations to come.. Why and how is it possible to set up puppet regimes? reason being, there r always weak people around in the society that can go to any length for personal gains and fulfill the wish of the invaders....

REALLY UNFORTUNATE LAND..

UNFORTUNATE AFGHANISTAN

It is really a tragedy; that after so many years; the people of Afghanistan are in war in one one way or the other. Politicians come and go; Governments come and go. In the end who losses; the people. genereations have been lost in this unfortunate land.
Nobody will help Afghanistan; this is a true fact. They can blame Pakistan, Al-Quade, US, Poppy cultivation etc etc.. It is the people within that can help themselves and the generations to come.. Why and how is it possible to set up puppet regimes? reason being, there r always weak people around in the society that can go to any length for personal gains and fulfill the wish of the invaders....

REALLY UNFORTUNATE LAND..

UNFORTUNATE AFGHANISTAN

It is really a tragedy; that after so many years; the people of Afghanistan are in war in one one way or the other. Politicians come and go; Governments come and go. In the end who losses; the people. genereations have been lost in this unfortunate land.
Nobody will help Afghanistan; this is a true fact. They can blame Pakistan, Al-Quade, US, Poppy cultivation etc etc.. It is the people within that can help themselves and the generations to come.. Why and how is it possible to set up puppet regimes? reason being, there r always weak people around in the society that can go to any length for personal gains and fulfill the wish of the invaders....

REALLY UNFORTUNATE LAND..

Afgh/Pak

It is crystal clear that ISI is a poison for the region. Its crimes are recorded not only in Afghanistan, but in Kashmir and Iran too. ISI has been training suiciders, as it was training elements among Mujahideen to blow dams and bridges.
There is no doubt that there are Taliban and Alqaeda leadership in Pakistan, openly planning attacks on Afghans, and their regular arrests proves Musharaf as a big liar, as he was swearing there are no Taliban/alqaeda in Pakistan three months ago.
Durand pact has expired. NWFP is Afghanistan.
Long life Afghanistan!
Long life to our Pashtoon brothers in Pakistan!

Afgh/Pak

It is crystal clear that ISI is a poison for the region. Its crimes are recorded not only in Afghanistan, but in Kashmir and Iran too. ISI has been training suiciders, as it was training elements among Mujahideen to blow dams and bridges.
There is no doubt that there are Taliban and Alqaeda leadership in Pakistan, openly planning attacks on Afghans, and their regular arrests proves Musharaf as a big liar, as he was swearing there are no Taliban/alqaeda in Pakistan three months ago.
Durand pact has expired. NWFP is Afghanistan.
Long life Afghanistan!
Long life to our Pashtoon brothers in Pakistan!

Afgh/Pak

It is crystal clear that ISI is a poison for the region. Its crimes are recorded not only in Afghanistan, but in Kashmir and Iran too. ISI has been training suiciders, as it was training elements among Mujahideen to blow dams and bridges.
There is no doubt that there are Taliban and Alqaeda leadership in Pakistan, openly planning attacks on Afghans, and their regular arrests proves Musharaf as a big liar, as he was swearing there are no Taliban/alqaeda in Pakistan three months ago.
Durand pact has expired. NWFP is Afghanistan.
Long life Afghanistan!
Long life to our Pashtoon brothers in Pakistan!

Qamary Yousafzai CHOOSING news for the good of ISI

It appears to me that all of Yousofzai’s reports are against the current Afghan regime and the Afghans' independence. He brings news that critize Karzai and his governemnt. Hence one can guess that he’s either an ISI agent or a biased reporter that reports for the good of taleban and ultimately ISI.
Talibs recently(after releasing the french woman)claimed that they have good-will towards women(I guess that’s what yousofzai is trying to say which is absolutely ludicrous), We all know they have no respect for women, they used to beat women and girls if they went out without a 'MAHRAM' or if they didnt wear 'BURKA', they had banned all types of media, they massacred innocent people, they...well they SUCKED.
Pakistan has always wanted a subservient government in Afghanistan, such as the obedient talib regime, that does not question the Durrand Line’s Legality. Because of this they dont want Karzai as the president of Afghanistan.
...
The eastern district that the taliban had seized was just a tactical maneuver by the Afghan National Army, the ANA took it back after two hours without even facing any resistence from the talibs.
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Dear lil bigot(ie yousofzai), the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Richard Holbrooke, is saying all this because it could persuade the Americans that the US is losing the war and that it’s time to vote for the democrats, which is for Holbrooke’s good.
Another possiblity is that Yousofzai is DRUNK. HAHAHAHA

Dam Pakistan

I don`t know how Mr.Musharraf said such things about Mr.Hamid Karzai.but i am sure that If musharraf and his ISI even his country Pakistan try to distroy the Great Afghanistan, or Owen it, they can`t. Becase afghanistan got it`s owen power.The power in afghanistan is it`s people.Brave, honor,and always ready to die for thier country. Long Life Afghanistan.We, Afghans will never let others to distroy our land, our mother land the Great Afghanistan.

Helpful to understanding... !

Thank you to the Article author and poster Qamaryousafazi. Very interesting and helpful insights.

Very unlike the posts of thieves and propaganda promoters, like the theives and supporters such as the uncle toms.

Once Again Pakistan and Afghan army killing each other near to Logar and Parachinar Area.this will cause for many problems.this is only due to wrong foriegn policy of Afghanistan.

now Pakistan is under Suicide attacks and also clashes are goinig on Pak-Afghan border near Parachinar (Kurram Agency) between Pakistan Army and Afghan Army,it will make a news conflect.

nosh i agree with you. and your few words are most better than an article. we Afghans are UNFORTUNATE....both side of the border.

You can not continue your game against the brave people of Afghanistan for ever Musharaf. First you create Taliban and Al qaeda and now you want to blame us for that.

I doubt that Qamaryousefzai is an ISI agent who was arrested by Afghan Government and have seen the maps etc. in Afghanistan. The whole world
knows that Pakistani Army is benefiting by creating crisis in Afghanistan since
1979. They even made the Atom-bomb by exploiting this Afghan crisis.

The whole world knows that Pakistani military trained gorillas infilterate in Afghanistan in the name of Talibans and bleed the NATO forces. What
Mr. Karzai can do? Must he conspire with Pakistani Army to hand-over Kabul to Pakistan or what?

It is a pitty that Human Rights Watch do not describes the bombardment, killing, displacing and kidnaping of Balochs by Pakistani Army. The kidnaping
and attacks on innocent Balochs continues and Mr. Musharaf has labelled them that they have joined with Jehadi groups and have gone to Afghanistan or Iraq. One Thousand Percent “a lie” of Musharaf, a white lie like a Mafia.

The holy friend-ship of Mr. Bush & Mr. Musharaf shall bring more surprises to us in the near future. Following the “terms & conditions” of Mr. Musharaf, west shall be bankrupt by pumping dollers into Pakistani Military Generals. Pakistan & China shall increase their “sphere of influence” over Central Asia, South Asia and Middle east. Israelies shall be shifted to United States and shall be chased by Muslims like hungry wolves.

Another shoe drops!!

Thank you to posters 08:23 and 08:27 for your contributions to the information pool. Information has been very much lacking, in that only propaganda has previously been presented!

Poster 08:27, You say...

'The whole world knows' a few times, but I for one do not “know”, but would like to “know”.

I need some argument and facts to go do some checking on what it is you have said and are saying.

For instance you challenge the truth of Qamaryousafai as an ISI Agent and being arrested. What are the reasons you used to make such a conclusion?

Interested in knowledge.

Insult to a Prisedent

Musharaf almost swearing at Karzai. Is it normal in today’s diplomacy?, or is it because Karzai can not send gorillas to destroy Tarabilla dam, etc. in Pakistan?
Those made in 'Tirra' bombs that Pakistan has making Musharaf and other army generals think as if they own Afghanistan.
Those bombs are made in Pakistan and I doubt it will have much effect in mountainous Afghanistan.

right information mr Qamar Yousafzai;Afghan wants peace no karzai and Rabbani

I am from Afghanistan and many persons who donnt have any sympathies with taliban but but due to revenge of Khalaqayan,(The supporters of USSR) felt in the Al-Qaeda Account and also for handing over the land from many people of Afghanistan,The facts and figure are totaly based on reality if some one not understanding that is their own part!I am Afghani and always spend life in abroad and i tried to participat in reconstruction of Afghanistan,and The dumentation for The NGO,as know as Mosesa,were demonded for registration $1000.and i thought that this is only a Drama of Karzai.
— — — — — — -NATO also allowed poppy in Helmand,and threw pamphlets through Helicopter ,,,and later on they changed statements

reply to poster: 8.52

First let`s discuss Mr. Yousef-zai. He described that once he was in the prison of “TALIBANS”. If it is correct, how comes that he is alive to-day? Yes,
in the second time, he was in Kandhar and have seen maps of Afghanistan.
He is worried about “Pashtunistan” which is not the problem of Pakistan. The
Pashtuns of Pakistan can decide this question by adult franchise whether they like to remain in Pakistan or choose to be an independent State. The
Pakistani Military has no right to send his “trained gorillas” in the name of Talibans and bleed Afghans and NATO forces.

You, don`t know. You don`t know the thousand of small factories in Darra Adam Khel which manufacture all kinds of weapons and “Pakistan Ordinance Factory” use to guide them and purchase these weapons for his “Pakistani Trained Gorrillas” i.e. Talibans to bleed the hearts and minds of Afghans & NATO forces. Forget it not, that from a bullet to rockets, bombs and even
jackets for suicide bombers are made-in Darra Adem Khel, N.W.F.P. under the guidence of ISI of Pakistan.

You don`t know hundreds of heroin manufacturing factories in FATA area of N.W.F.P. and the raw material is brought from the poppy fields of Helmand, Kandhar and other southers parts of Afghanistan. The cultivators and the
curriers of narcotic business, help ISI to bleed Afghans and NATO forces. The money earned from narcotic business, is used by ISI of Pakistan to win the
hearts and minds of Afghans and NATO forces in Afghanistan.

There are a lot of secrets about the evil deeds of Pakistani Military about proliferation of WMD, involvment in Iraq war and the secret deals with Iran etc. but .........Pakistanis only reject the facts.

The disease of Pakistan is uncurable. The only option is left is to make an operation upon Pakistan and divide it into five parts, which shall lead peace and prosperity in this part of the world.

First let`s discuss Mr. Yousef-zai,,karzai is under eighteen?

First let`s discuss Mr. Yousef-zai. He described that once he was in the prison of “TALIBANS”. If it is correct, how comes that he is alive to-day?
in this reply i would say that many Journalist has been arrested by Taliban even krestina lamb and one othe female journalist as she became Muslim.
and you blamed The dara -e-Adam khel,so our history is very much clear from beganing we are against of britans,plz look in to history,and you blame that we have Heroen factorues,so what you did with india as they are the number one in poppy crop but no one point it out and just saying that it is we are using for medicine,we knows mr Yousafzai as they have a very large tribe and all Tribes respecting to yousafzai’s tribes more about Qamar yousafzai just read the article with broad mind he means that firstly Karzai interfared in Pakistan,who the hel karzai is that they are making maps like in colleges on walls and he denied Pakistan,,we are saying Pushtoonistan zinda baad but not with pupits of india,

01:09 Poster...

Thank you for the reply, and even more so for the information.

I have been reading up on Pakistan, the ISI, and numerous historical events. Much of what you just posted ties in with informations I am finding. Also, you have created new areas of interest for my searching.

I am not sure why I never made a connection of Pakistan to the Middle East 'Problem', but with just a small bit of searching and looking for the connections, they are there to be found.

The complexity is enormous, and what I am finding is a great deal of difficulty assigning weight or values to actions/events/entities. The long standing grudges do not all conform to a single identification such as 'ISI' as there are competing factions within ISI. Then enters the subtrifuge of immatators of the CIA and Mossad. And I am not at all sure of the Russian counterpart.


What is coming up the strongest for me is; There are 'peoples' that do not want peace. These 'peoples' are making money with conflict. And conflict seems to be easily employed!

The situtation reminds me of the early 1900’s and the American Labor Movement. Which was not nearly as complex but still followed the same path of exploitation of one group towards many groups for profits.

We made 'gains' began with WHERE divergent peoples could come together and cooperate for mutual gains, to over come (first) the old separations. We have lost that fight in the years of 1980 to present. And the fight must be refought. It will be harder this time as the pUNDITS have insulated themselves within the law. And have institutionalized control of the 'unwanted'. My guess our fight will take at least fifty years. The bigest problem is the lack of understanding that there is a fight.

From what I see in your fight, it is clear a fight is going on. To me it is clear there are victims all around to each group. Much like our 1900’s fight.

There are examples of how the fight is being won in other parts of the World. There are examples, and they need to investigated for the Peoples to overcome.

Accept the facts and not......reject.

1. As you say, Talibans were created by Pakistan, but the main foot-soldiers and the “command & control” of Talibans & Al-quida is Pakistani Army and it`s Intellegence Agency.

2. Pakistani Government is a military Government and in the name of fighting terrorism, they are oppressing and killing their own citizens.

3. Pakistan has created and is nourishing various Jehadi groups, thousands of
Islami Maderssas with the close collaboration & finance of Saudi-Arbia, who
promote the Wahabism and dream to conquer the whole world....but above of
all to save their kingdom and the abundent Oil money, but denying to share it with their citizens.

3. Pakistan Army, it`s ISI are fundamentalist muslims. Musharaf is their chief and is appointed by ISI to serve their hidden Agenda. The way of co-operation between United States and Pakistani Military seems to be separated, and they not intend to make a U-turn on his activities to bleed Afghans, Afghan Army and NATO Forces.

4. American dollars can`t hinder the Chief of Pakistani Army and Chief Executive of ISI of Pakistan, Mr. Musharaf to spare the lives of foreign forces in Afghanistan as Pakistan earns much more money from Saudi-arabia, Iran, and their business of narcotics and proliferation of WMD and selling of domestic made weapons and other businesses.

5. Pakistani Army has been turned into a “Multi-national Company” and their Generals are acting just like directors of that company. They wish to remain in power at all costs to continue to benefit the legal and illegal incomes of the State and those who challange them, shall face and are facing dire consequences........ they shall use their Islami card when they find themselve in trouble waters.

To save the world, the words shall never work...Destroy & divide Pakistan!!!

Pakistanis are major threat

Pakistan is becoming a major threat to world peace, and believe me something will be done to fix this problem. As soon as our forces withdraw from Iraq, we will be able to bomb Pakistan then. This could be prevented unless Pakis bring a major change for the good. The world community will not sit and wait for terrorists to give up their evil acts. Afghanistan was a mess and we fixed it, or we are cleaning the mess and sooner or later it will be a normal functioning country. As for Pakistan, it appears to us that Pakistan’s people are looking for trouble to come to them. If it is trouble they want then it is trouble they will have.

There are Posters here, I believe know...

The answer to a question I have had for some time.

First I think I need to discusss the words I will be using. I do not have definitions for these words because they do not have meaning in my past lifetime. They are recent introductions by pUNDITS not worth of trust. I do not wish to offend and mean no disrespect.

The Taliban had control of Afghanistan prior to October 2001. There is a group in Control of Iran today. I do not know the connections if such exist. There are competing groups in control in other countries of the Middle East. There may be war going on between some of the groups, and aggitations between others.

Here is the question: Is it possible for these groups to coexist under a common legal system? Can a person choose to leave a religious belief system, and remain living in the same Country? Is it possible to disconnect religion from the legal system?

It seems to me that the connection of Religious beliefs and the legal systems is a major source of problems. Can there not be a symbolic death rather than a stoning death, if the victim/offender chooses?

Wouldn’t such a solution satisfy the Gods? It seems to me such solutions would allow various religious belief to accept those different from themselves without coming to violence.

I am not trying to preach, but to find a solution. We have a major problem in the US that divides Americans. The divison occurred for political reasons, but is a religious belief that is used. 'Abortion' is the issue, and as such is a religious belief. No one is forced to have their religious belief violated and forced on them. Their religious belief is not at all attacked or infringed on. It is more the other way around, the religious belief is being forced on people that do not hold the religious belief 'abortion is wrong'.

I am not interested in arguing the error or correctness of beliefs, I am interested in finding a solution that can be lived with.

So, is it possible for the peoples of the Middle East to separate religious beliefs and a legal system of laws, so that a common Rule of Law is fair?

Unregistered;25131:
The answer to a question I have had for some time.

First I think I need to discusss the words I will be using. I do not have definitions for these words because they do not have meaning in my past lifetime. They are recent introductions by pUNDITS not worth of trust. I do not wish to offend and mean no disrespect.

The Taliban had control of Afghanistan prior to October 2001. There is a group in Control of Iran today. I do not know the connections if such exist. There are competing groups in control in other countries of the Middle East. There may be war going on between some of the groups, and aggitations between others.

Here is the question: Is it possible for these groups to coexist under a common legal system? Can a person choose to leave a religious belief system, and remain living in the same Country? Is it possible to disconnect religion from the legal system?

It seems to me that the connection of Religious beliefs and the legal systems is a major source of problems. Can there not be a symbolic death rather than a stoning death, if the victim/offender chooses?

Wouldn’t such a solution satisfy the Gods? It seems to me such solutions would allow various religious belief to accept those different from themselves without coming to violence.

I am not trying to preach, but to find a solution. We have a major problem in the US that divides Americans. The divison occurred for political reasons, but is a religious belief that is used. 'Abortion' is the issue, and as such is a religious belief. No one is forced to have their religious belief violated and forced on them. Their religious belief is not at all attacked or infringed on. It is more the other way around, the religious belief is being forced on people that do not hold the religious belief 'abortion is wrong'.

I am not interested in arguing the error or correctness of beliefs, I am interested in finding a solution that can be lived with.

So, is it possible for the peoples of the Middle East to separate religious beliefs and a legal system of laws, so that a common Rule of Law is fair?

If you understood Islam, you would see the error of your questions. Sharia law requires Muslims to impose Islamic law within all Islamic countries and to spread Islam throughout the world until there is only Islamic law. If you are NOT Muslim, then you must live as a second class citizen or lower. If you refuse to convert to Islam or to pay the tax on non-Muslims, then the only choice left under Islamic law is to kill the non-Muslim.

Now, I agree that there are many Muslims who would NOT impose such sanctions, but right now, they are not in positions of authority, either religious or political.

If a Muslim stays true to Islam, then it is impossible to seperate religion from law, as Islam requires law to be based on what is written in the quran and the traditions of their prophet.

So, the question becomes this: Will we assist the Muslims who will not impose Islamic law, or will we allow the fanatic Muslims to try and convert the world? That is the only choices we have against the Islamofascist terrorists.

reply to 02,17 p.m.

Dear Sir, as you have described about the interests which shape the state
policy. Well, the interest of Middle-eastern Kings, Sheikhs and others is to
put the whole money in their own Bank accounts and not share it with the citizens of the State. To do this job, they have created Al-quida, talibans, and a bundle of such organisations.

As regards, Pakistani Military policy towards Afghanistan, they intend to
conquer Afghanistan and make them their colony. Like Hitler of nazi Germany and Saddam of Iraq, Pakistani military has made up their minds to extend the
Pakistani borders.

As their war in Afghanistan against NATO forces has reached to the boiling point, they can`t make any U-turn on the orders of Mr. Bush. They know that United States is badly engaged in Iraq and they have
severe problems facing with Iran and, above of all, Mr. Bush is a guest for some months in the world politics.

Pakistani Musharaf is clever and refuses to abide by the advices of White House and he is only taking time until the tenure of Mr. Bush is finished. It seems, the Pakistani Military shall leave no stone unturend to capture .......Afghanistan, again, in the cover name of Talibans!!!!

Analysing the present situation, Pakistan is in the process of extending his/her legs. To stop the menace of Pakistani Mafia, their legs must be cut.

An Afghan Think-tank.

Is okay, Fearless W got troops nearby to clean the vermin out...
;)
Taliban Take Over Southern District
April 27, 2007 - Taliban militants have seized control of a district in eastern Afghanistan after an hours-long clash that killed five people, including the local mayor and his police chief, a senior official said Friday.

]The Taliban takeover is an embarrassment to the Afghan government and its foreign backers, and shows how vulnerable remote areas remain despite the presence of some 47,000 U.S. and NATO troops. Militants launched the attack Thursday evening on the Giro district of Ghazni province, setting fire to several buildings and cutting communication lines, said provincial deputy governor Kazim Allayer.

The district mayor and four policemen, including the police chief, were killed in a battle that lasted several hours, Allayer said. Police reinforcements have been sent to the area, Ghazni’s deputy police chief Mohammad Zaman said. Giro is about 200 miles east of northern Helmand province, where a large NATO operation is under way.

'Giro collapsed last night, captured by the Taliban after heavy fighting between the police and the Taliban,' said Gen. Murad Ali, deputy regional corps commander of the Afghan army.

The Afghan army sent troops early Friday from Ghazni and Paktika to assist, Ali said. NATO and the U.S.-led coalition said they were aware of the incident. 'The details are very sketchy right now. We’re tracking it closely,' said Maj. William Mitchell, a spokesman for the coalition.

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07:19 PM Poster

Thank you for your reply. With the complexities, that you have described, do you see a way to improve peoples lives inspite of the outside influences?

Or will this be another wait with a war of attrition like with the Soviets? France seems willing to exit, and Canada will have a very hard time staying with the Torture issue facing the Government. Is such the only hope for the people to end the wars? Or do you see a way to accomplish not being the goat for slaughter?

Taliban take over southern district, kill district chief, head of police

KABUL: The Taliban conducted a raid in Afghanistan�s volatile south and took control of a provincial district, killing five people including the district chief and the head of the district police, the deputy governor said on Friday.

The Taliban launched the attack Thursday evening on the Giro district of Ghazni province and during an hours-long clash killed the district chief and four policemen, including the district police chief, said provincial deputy governor Kazim Allayer.

Allayer said the Taliban set fire to several buildings in the district and cut communications lines. Deputy police chief Mohammad Zaman said police reinforcements have been sent to the area.

“Giro collapsed last night, captured by the Taliban after heavy fighting between the police and the Taliban," said Gen. Murad Ali, deputy regional corps commander of the Afghan army.

The Afghan army sent troops early today from Ghazni and Paktika to assist, Ali said.

NATO and the U.S.-led coalition said they were aware of the incident.

“The details are very sketchy right now. We�re tracking it closely," said Maj. William Mitchell, a spokesman for the U.S.-led coalition.

After a winter lull in attacks, the Taliban have stepped up bombings and attacks in recent weeks, as NATO-led forces push forward with their biggest ever offensive in southern Afghanistan to root out militants in the opium-producing heartland of Helmand province.

NATO forces claim to have blunted a vaunted rebel “spring offensive” with a series of military operations of their own in the south.

Unpopularityof Karzai government threatensAfghanistan effort.qamaryousafzai@yahoo.com

(qamaryousafzai@yahoo.com)in the the refrences for blamming me..as ISI agent this is like to the joking,a Honest journalists are sincer only to his or her job,and they damcare about any Intelegent agency..how i am alive? read... http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/04/28/french-hostages.html?ref=rss
for reference..
and a good fresh report read this..Unpopularity of Karzai government threatens Afghanistan effort,
Holbrooke warns
2 hours, 30 minutes ago
By Slobodan Lekic
BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) - NATO risks losing the war in Afghanistan because of a “tremendous deterioration” in the popularity of the government of U.S.-backed President Hamid Karzai, the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Richard Holbrooke said Saturday. “Afghanistan represents the ultimate test for NATO," Holbrooke - who recently toured the war-torn country - told the Brussels Forum, an annual transatlantic security conference.
The North Atlantic Treaty Alliance has 36,000 troops under its command in Afghanistan and the United States has deployed an additional 11,000 troops in the eastern border region with Pakistan.
Still, Taliban guerrillas have vastly expanded their activities during the past year. Insurgents have now returned to many regions outside their traditional strongholds in the east that were rebel-free since the 2001 U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan.
Holbrooke said he was struck during his visit by how unpopular Karzai’s government had become because of corruption caused by the country’s burgeoning drug problem.
“I have heard increasingly that the government has lost its momentum," he said.
“I can sense a tremendous deterioration in the standing of the government. Afghans are now universally talking about their disappointment with Karzai. Let’s be honest with ourselves ... the government must succeed or else the Taliban will gain from it."
At a news conference later, Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay said the fate of the allied operation in Afghanistan - in which 54 Canadian soldiers have died so far - hangs by a thread.
“While I don’t want to sound alarmist, I think there is going to be a tipping point unless we are able to stabilize (southern Afghanistan, especially), unless we are able to get on with building the economy, rule of law and government institutions," MacKay said.
He said Canada has been disappointed by a lack of solidarity within NATO to share the burden of the Afghan operation.
He also called on Pakistan to do more to secure its border with Afghanistan, saying there are as many as four million refugees “just inside the Pakistani border and they are a source for recruitment” for Taliban guerrillas.
NATO Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer added that: “If we lose .. the consequences will be felt not only in Afghanistan but in all nations."
Holbrooke, who was instrumental in formulating U.S. policy toward the United Nations, Africa, Asia and the Middle East, remains best-known for his role as the architect of the 1995 Dayton Peace Agreement, which ended the war in Bosnia.
Some have mentioned him as the next U.S. secretary of state if a Democratic candidate wins the next presidential election.
“We don’t want to see the kind of political chaos (in Kabul) that in Baghdad is destroying the coalition effort," he said.
He lambasted the U.S.-financed effort to train the Afghan police, saying it had produced a force that was corrupt and incompetent.
“The U.S. training program (for the police) under DynCorp is an appalling joke ... a complete shambles," he said. He referred to Falls Church, Virginia-based DynCorp International Inc. a major provider of security and defence services in Afghanistan, Iraq and other troublespots.
“I don’t want to appear negative, but unless we are honest about the problem we will continue saying year after year that we are making progress, but have lost ground. We all know where that leads."

War in Afghanistan being lost..this is clear....now

Afghanistan war being lost..due to miscomments of the USA..with Afghan people.
and now USA is attacking on Iran so the Taliban militants handed over the danger weapons from Iran.

War doesn’t seem to be affecting poppy production...
:o
Taliban Push Poppy Production to a Record Again
Aug. 25, 2007 � Afghanistan produced record levels of opium in 2007 for the second straight year, led by a staggering 45 percent increase in the Taliban stronghold of Helmand Province, according to a new United Nations survey to be released Monday.

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The report is likely to spark renewed debate about the United States� $600 million counternarcotics program in Afghanistan, which has been dogged by security challenges and endemic corruption within the Afghan government. �I think it is safe to say that we should be looking for a new strategy,� said William B. Wood, the American ambassador to Afghanistan, commenting on the report�s overall findings. �And I think that we are finding one.�

Mr. Wood said the current American programs for eradication, interdiction and alternative livelihoods should be intensified, but he added that spraying poppy crops with herbicide remained �a possibility.� Afghan and British officials have opposed spraying, saying it would drive farmers into the arms of the Taliban. While the report found that opium production dropped in northern Afghanistan, Western officials briefed on the assessment said, cultivation rose in the south, where Taliban insurgents urge farmers to grow poppies.

Although common farmers make comparatively little from the trade, opium is a major source of financing for the Taliban, who gain public support by protecting farmers� fields from eradication, according to American officials. They also receive a cut of the trade from traffickers they protect. In Taliban-controlled areas, traffickers have opened more labs that process raw opium into heroin, vastly increasing its value. The number of drug labs in Helmand rose to roughly 50 from 30 the year before, and about 16 metric tons of chemicals used in heroin production have been confiscated this year.

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